Episode 99

Guest Episode - Re-licensing, forks, and community impact with Data in the Hallway

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12 December 2024

36 mins 41 secs

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CHAOSScast- Episode 99

Hosts:
Ray Paik

Daniël van Eeden

Guests:

Dawn Foster

We’re taking a break this week so we’re very pleased to share instead an episode from our friends over at Data in the Hallway, hosted by Ray Paik and co-hosted by Daniël van Eeden. Their podcast dives deep into the fascinating world of database technology, open source innovation, and the incredible stories shaping global tech communities.

In this episode, Ray and Daniël sit down with Dawn Foster, Director of Data Science at the CHAOSS Project, to explore the re-licensing of major open source projects—a significant trend over the past decade. Together, they unpack the ripple effects this has on community health, share advice for developers navigating Contributor License Agreements, and examine the financial and business implications of re-licensing. They also reflect on whether this trend is likely to continue in the years ahead.

Throughout the episode, they reference some excellent resources, including case-study data from CHAOSS, guides on open source organizational dynamics, and financial analyses that add depth to the discussion. Links to these resources are in the show notes if you want to explore further.

The case-study data: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-data-science/tree/main/dataset/license-changes/fork-case-study
More details about the organizational dynamics in OSS: https://chaoss.community/practitioner-guide-organizational-participation/
Discussion on the topic by James Governor, Amanda Brock, and Dawn Foster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wliDVF3FpI0
Business implications/financial analysis: https://redmonk.com/rstephens/2024/08/26/software-licensing-changes-and-their-impact-on-financial-outcomes/
Magic Roundabout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Hemel_Hempstead)

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