Episode 58

Panel Discussion: The Future of Metrics

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About this Episode

Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, Venia, Don, and Sean are having a panel discussion about the juicy news with Google Analytics, the history of it, their experience with it over the years, and the future of metrics. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues!

[00:01:47] Don, Sean, and Venia share their experiences with Google Analytics.

[00:03:45] Venia announces the big news about Google Analytics and we hear about the history of Google Analytics.

[00:13:47] Sean asks if the folks who were invisible to the conventional Analytics become a prototype of what people have in terms of tools and power under the new Google, and Venia explains “dark data.”

[00:16:25] Don talks about the global privacy control you have to do for handling personal data in California and the California Detector.

[00:17:32] Venia talks about what happened in 2016 with GDPR.

[00:19:29] Where does Google Analytics new platform fit into this problem space?

[00:22:46] Sean asks if we are anthropomorphizing his smart fridge if it’s connected to the internet and if it now has a right to be forgotten, and Venia and Don respond.

[00:27:37] Don explains about how we put a lot of emphasis on privacy changes but arbitrary policy changes by big platforms also have a big impact, and we learn how much will be handled by JavaScript Frameworks and development tools down the road.

[00:30:54] Venia wonders how much of a nightmare this transition will be, and what it will look like for the business owner, the end user, and for Google.

[00:36:24] What are the implications for people who buy and sell these ads by the thousand and what are the implications for the consumer?

[00:40:30] We hear about a new group called the Private Advertising Technology Community Group and what they do.

Value Adds (Picks) of the week:

  • [00:41:25] Don’s pick is The Flask Mega-Tutorial.
  • [00:43:23] Venia’s pick is working in her sketchbook.
  • [00:43:56] Sean’s pick is getting outside to ride his bicycle.


  • Venia Logan
  • Don Marti
  • Sean Goggins





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